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number four -- >> i'll stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. gerri: making big bird a star with saturday night live, jimmy fallon, all trying to book the star. his people saying he's not talking to the media. we were turned down by big bird. it's appalling. number three -- >> and at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves is the reason that governor romney is keeping all of these plans to replace secret because they are too good? gerri: romney is planning to give a number of policy speeches filling in the details that obama says are missing. here's number two. >> don't forget, you put $90 billion, like 50 years worth, of breaks into solar and wind to solyndra and fisker. you just don't e pick the winners 5e7 losers, but just the losers. gerri: that was my favorite. he said that would have hired 2 million teachers. first, the number one most memorable line is this -- >> mr. president, your entitled as a president to your own airplane and house, but not your own facts. gerri: that's a zinger. no wonder romney was the winner
number four -- >> i'll stop the subsidy to pbs. i like big bird. gerri: making big bird a star with saturday night live, jimmy fallon, all trying to book the star. his people saying he's not talking to the media. we were turned down by big bird. it's appalling. number three -- >> and at some point, i think the american people have to ask themselves is the reason that governor romney is keeping all of these plans to replace secret because they are too good? gerri: romney is planning...
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jim i'm going to stop subsidy to pbs. i like pbs and i like you, too. but i'm not going to spend money on things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> the fact is if you're running the race the way you describe, governor and it's not possible to come up with enough deductions and loophole that's only fikt high income individuals to avoid either raising the deficit or burdening the middle class, it's math. it's arithmetic. >> republicans insist the policies are failures and democrats say governor romney doesn't have a specific plan. republican senator johnson joins us from denver. you've been in the bubble of the debate. and most people sh most polls which are inaccurate show governor romney won this debate. and i'm curious what you think overall impact will be for the candidate? >> this is a really great performance by the governor. and i think it resets the campaign giving him on opportunity to take his case to the american people. and so mup of what people have heard, seen, read about mitt romney comes through a filter, tonight he has a chance
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i made a stop to pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> was this a good thing, a bad thing or a thing? >> i after all of the chatter, i thought he said i am going to cut big bird. i am going to cut the subsidee. i like big bird. he said he liked him. i didn't remember that. >> if would be great if he said, no, i will cut big bird like a prison shiv. >> by the way, maybe it is me, liz, who likes big bird? he was the least likable. he was big, clumsy, horrible. >> you know who i didn't like? snufalupogous. he was a downer. >> i liked the grouch. >> what's his name? >> oscar. >> ons -- >> romney, what was missing in this debate is romney wants advertising on pbs. he wants general mills corn flakes and have pbs be sustained by the free market advertising and not the taxpayer dollars. >> which makes sense. >> why don't they just do it? >> i don't know. you are asking somebody who didn't go to the research. >> they pause and go to the people with the mugs and umbrellas umbrellas and sell a few birds. >> congress tried
i made a stop to pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you too. >> was this a good thing, a bad thing or a thing? >> i after all of the chatter, i thought he said i am going to cut big bird. i am going to cut the subsidee. i like big bird. he said he liked him. i didn't remember that. >> if would be great if he said, no, i will cut big bird like a prison shiv. >> by the way, maybe it is me, liz, who likes big bird? he was the least likable. he was big, clumsy, horrible....
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i know my first thought, i thought it was a pbs pledge-a-thons because it looks like that. i don't know if they are giving away tote bags, but they are all reporters. there are hundreds of them. there's the spin aloe, just to the right, and so what's going to happen after the debate is that all the romney and obama forces come out in droves to tell you how brilliantly each side did while before the debate, up until now, they say each side is essentially an idiot. they can't debate, barely walk, talk, and chew gum at the same time. that's called lowering expectations. who can blame them? i built a career on it. this guy didn't have to do that. one of the most widely respected figures in washington. he is many say of national to denver himself. he could be in the presidential circle, senator john thune. good to see you, senator. >> good to see you and be with you as always. neil: i covered a few debates. we're going into them, each guy sells their guy to the closest thing as an idiot, and no matter how poorly he did, he's a genius. >> right. neil: what are we to derive from t
i know my first thought, i thought it was a pbs pledge-a-thons because it looks like that. i don't know if they are giving away tote bags, but they are all reporters. there are hundreds of them. there's the spin aloe, just to the right, and so what's going to happen after the debate is that all the romney and obama forces come out in droves to tell you how brilliantly each side did while before the debate, up until now, they say each side is essentially an idiot. they can't debate, barely walk,...
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fund pbs for 500 years. that's republican priority. now when we come back did president obama take it easy on mitt romney because fox news and conservatives kept calling him an angry black man? really interesting conversation. we'll have that when we return. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic but i would say this to the american people. >> obama does not have the latitude that white guys who start you morning with a daily dose of politics from a fresh perspective. >>i'm a slutty bob hope. the troops love me. >>only on current tv. home of the brave. ♪ ♪ it's where fear goes unwelcomed... ♪ ♪ and certain men... find a way to rise above. this is the land of giants. ♪ ♪ guts. glory. ram. [ ♪ theme music ♪ ] if you didn't notice, this week fox news and a lot of visit websites went crazy over the exclusive video clip they have ofof president obama that they found. except it wasn't exclusive and they ran it back in 2004 when he said it, and they ran it the last campaign, but they are w
fund pbs for 500 years. that's republican priority. now when we come back did president obama take it easy on mitt romney because fox news and conservatives kept calling him an angry black man? really interesting conversation. we'll have that when we return. >> jim, you may want to move on to another topic but i would say this to the american people. >> obama does not have the latitude that white guys who start you morning with a daily dose of politics from a fresh perspective....
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i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> okay. mitt romney has never made it a secret he really likes firing people. he ruffled feathers when me proposed to cut federal funding for pbs. it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the #savesesamestreet became the top trending topic. >> i don't understand. you know, everything was just fine. why does it have to be this way? give me one good reason. >> well, that's the problem, pbs doesn't receive any direct money from the government. the government funds the corporation for public broadcasting, a profit -- a private non-profit corporation that distributes the subsidy to local pbs stations. in 2012, cpb was given $444.1 million. let's see. what is that? that's .012% of the federal budget. last year, pbs received just 5% of cpb's total appropria
i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> okay. mitt romney has never made it a secret he really likes firing people. he ruffled feathers when me proposed to cut federal funding for pbs. it wasn't because moderator jim lehrer worked for pbs since 1973. romney messed with the most popular bird in america, and twitter responded. big bird peaked at 17,000 tweets per minute and the...
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i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> bill: can you explain, let's start with the 47% because neither charles nor i really -- we just don't get it it why didn't he use that? >> it's inexplicable to me. i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have an easy run at it, i don't know. but the 47% has become so engrained and been so says tested and so negative for romney that you ought to use it it's as simple for that. >> bill: we know why he mailed in his game last night, the presidents, because one of the men that you idolize very much al gore told us it was just the elevation and the president was i guess didn't have enough oxygen and just couldn't get the energy level up. >> let's not waste our time on serious analysis with al gore's view about the air. >> bill: are you repudiating global warming? >> of
i like pbs. i like big bird. i actually like you too. i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> bill: can you explain, let's start with the 47% because neither charles nor i really -- we just don't get it it why didn't he use that? >> it's inexplicable to me. i mean, look, obama mailed in that debate last night. and romney was on his game. there is no question about it. now, whether that was because obama thought he was going to have...
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i love pbs, i love big bird, i actually like you to. but i'm not going to keep spending money on things, borrowing money from china to pay for it. that's number one. number two, i'll take programs that are currently good programs but i think will be run more efficiently at the state level and send them to the state. number three, i'll make government more efficient, cut back the number of employees, combine some agencies into departments. my cutbacks will be done through attrition, by the way. this is the approach we have to take to get america to a balanced budget. the president said he'd cut the deficit in half. unfortunately, he doubled it. $1 trillion deficits for the last four years. the president's put in place as much public debt, almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> mr. president, two minutes. >> when i walked into the oval office, i had more than a $1 trillion deficit greeting me. and we know where it came from. two wars that were paid for on a credit card, two tax cuts that were not paid
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that pbs became a political target in the presidential debate. governor romney does not understand the value of american people place on public broadcasting and the outstanding return on investment the system delivers to our nation. the federal investment and public broadcasting equals about one, 100th of 1% of the federal budget, elimination of funding would have virtually no impact on the nation's debt, yet the loss to the american public would be devastating. there are some people who say that that was not the best thing to mention, bringing up big bird. >> you're talking about somebody who does like
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs, i love big bird. i like you, too, but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. that's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. but that's what we heard last night. >> bret: in all seriousness, pbs released a statement today and they said, quote, we are very disappointed that...
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character big >> i would stop the subsidy to pbs. like big bird, but i g on thingsep spendin that we have to borrow money for.china to pay there was a picture of what big bird holding a sign on the internet saying we will work for food. he has gained $22,000. a spokesman person for twitter the debate was the most about event in u.s. history. >> he will visit virginia today. he and paul ryan holding a rally tonight with a country singer. president obama will return to the campaign trail. he will speak in denver and at wisconsin iny of madison. vice president biden visiting iowa. stay with abc 7 for complete of the presidential race. atk for us online as well wjla.com. >> per vigil tonight to remember of the sniper attacks 10 years ago. it's at the united methodist n gaithersburg to honor the 10 people died during the three weeks. john allen mohammed and lee boyd malvo were convicted. malvo is serving a life sentence in a virginia prison and his accomplice was executed. funeral mass today for a two sonsoman and her o were shot and kill
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stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their chance. their first and only debate is set for next thursday. in denver, i'm bigad shaban. now back to you. >> bigad, were there any major missteps by either of the candidates? oh, okay. we'll get back to buy good a little later. >>> starting today, president obama and mitt romney weigh in on the issues in an exclusive presidential forum on our website, cbssf.com. you can check that out. today's issue, of course, the economy. and we want to get a discussion going. who do you think won round one of the presidential debate? and why? comment on facebook or twitter or email us at mornings@cbs5.com. >>> developing news in san jose where investigators are still on the scene of a deadly shooting there. cbs 5
stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their chance. their first and only debate is set for next thursday. in denver, i'm bigad shaban. now back to you. >> bigad, were there any major missteps by either of the...
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. >> i'm is going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: seconds after governor romney uttered those world twitter nearly tumbled over. at one point 17,000 big bird tweets per minute. "the social network" said it was the most tweeted about political event in u.s. history. ari fleischer, big bird needs to ask dora the explorer how she manages to live without taxpayer money. try it big bird. joan rivers, attention pbs, if mitt romney fires big bird i'm ready to fill in. i got the perfect outfit. president obama did not pounce directly during the debates but he did thursday on the trail. >> when he was asked what he would actually do to cut the deficit and reduce spending, he said he would eliminate funding for public television. thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it's about time. we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit. >> reporter: last night the late night shows had fun with it too. [ blee
. >> i'm is going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i love big bird. i like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money on things to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: seconds after governor romney uttered those world twitter nearly tumbled over. at one point 17,000 big bird tweets per minute. "the social network" said it was the most tweeted about political event in u.s. history. ari fleischer, big bird needs to ask dora the explorer how she...
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after romney said h says he liks big bird woodcut pbs funding, big bird got tweet 17,000 times per minute. new accounts opened including fire big bird. they put out this statement, a nonpartisan, non-profit organization, would not comment on the campaign but we're happy we can all agree that everyone likes big bird. cheryl: like most people, i am following on twitter while watching the debate and when the big bird tweet started, i started laughing and missed part of the debate. whoever books big bird on this network gets doughnut on me. and unlike the bank for loans. amazon capital services part of the lending program which allows customers to obtain cash quicker than they would with a traditional bank loan. amazon is not disclosing the number to qualify for the program according to a company representative. however those who qualify are characterized as heavy sellers of goods on the amazon website. dennis: i guarantee the next phone call amazon will get is from the new consumer protection board investigating non-bank type of lenders bidding request for thousands of pages of documents for
after romney said h says he liks big bird woodcut pbs funding, big bird got tweet 17,000 times per minute. new accounts opened including fire big bird. they put out this statement, a nonpartisan, non-profit organization, would not comment on the campaign but we're happy we can all agree that everyone likes big bird. cheryl: like most people, i am following on twitter while watching the debate and when the big bird tweet started, i started laughing and missed part of the debate. whoever books...
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stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things we have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their chance. their first and only debate is set for next thursday. in denver, i'm bigad shaban. now back to you. >> thank you. >>> well, trending now on social media, the comment that romney would fire big bird. it gained 25,000 followers on twitter overnight. less than 30 minutes ago, he thanks governor romney for making his account so popular so a little bit of fun there. president obama and mitt romney weigh in on the issues in an exclusive presidential for trum on cbssf.com. today's issue much like last night, the economy. >>> some developing news in san jose where investigators are still on the scene of a deadly shooting. cbs 5 reporter anne makovec is in east san jose with details. >> reporter:
stop this subsidy to pbs. i'm going to stop other things. i like pbs. i love big bird. i actually like you, too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things we have to borrow money from china to pay for. >> reporter: they will square off again october 16. the vice-presidential candidates will soon get their chance. their first and only debate is set for next thursday. in denver, i'm bigad shaban. now back to you. >> thank you. >>> well, trending now on social...
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subcy die to pbs and some other thing. i like big bird and you too. i'm not going to keep spending money to brother money from china to pay for it again. >> reporter: the two men will square off again on october 16th. vice presidential candidates square off next week on thursday. >> thank you so much. you just mentioned it vice presidential candidates joe biden and paul ryan holding their debate one week from today. overseas now an escalating violence between turkey and syria. overnight turkey launched border strikes into syria. several syrian soldiers have been killed. artillery attacks were retaliati retaliation. nato held an emergency meeting to asking syria to end the violations of international law. >> reporter: turkey took action against syria after a deadly shelling. among the dead a 6-year-old boy. several people were also injured including a police officer. turkey says it retaliated in points in syria detected with radar. the united states is in contact with turkish officials. >> it's a very dangerous situation. a
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subcy die to pbs and some other thing. i like big bird and you too. i'm not going to keep spending money to brother money from china to pay for it again. >> reporter: the two men will square off again on october 16th. vice presidential candidates square off next week on thursday. >> thank you so much. you just mentioned it vice presidential candidates joe biden and paul ryan holding their debate one week from today. overseas now an...
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i will stop the subsidy to pbs. i like pbs. i like big bird. i cannot keep spending money to borrow from china to pay for it. i will take programs that are good programs but will be run more officially at the state level. i'll make government more efficient and cut back the number of employees and combine some agencies. my cutbacks will be done through attrition. the president said he would cut the deficit in half. he doubled it. trillion-dollar deficits for the last four years. the president has put in place almost as much debt held by the public as all prior presidents combined. >> when i walked into the oval office i had more than a trillion dollar deficit greeting me. we know where it came from. two wars paid for on a credit card, two cuts that are not pay for, programs that were not paid for, a massive economic crisis. despite that, yes, we had to take some emergency measures to make sure we did not slip into a great depression. let's make sure we are cutting out things that are not helping us grow. 77 government programs from aircrafts th
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here is the comment and reaction. >> i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it is about time. >> reporter: people seemed stunned. >> i grew up with big bird and i would hate to see him leave the television but if it is -- i mean if he is in the way of progress -- >> i know what -- who i like. >> we were surprised -- we were surprised that something that hike that -- like that would be targeted for elimination. on facebook, twitter, writing to us, calling us, it has been a fantastic reaction and we have great faith this is a political ploy. >> last election when john mccain was talking about the average joe, the big bird thing is blowing up too. >> reporter: here is a list of big bird invitation from saturday night live, piers morgan to morning shows. big bird's boss says with the problems facing the nation it was a stunning, unbelievable moment that focus should fall on public broadcasting. health and science editor john fowler ktvu channel 2 news. >>> google and a group of publ
here is the comment and reaction. >> i am going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i love big bird. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird. it is about time. >> reporter: people seemed stunned. >> i grew up with big bird and i would hate to see him leave the television but if it is -- i mean if he is in the way of progress -- >> i know what -- who i like. >> we were surprised -- we were surprised that something that hike that -- like that...
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i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. that has to be negotiated with congress. when i ran for mayor, i said i was going to cut taxes by a certain level. i didn't know how i was going to do it exactly. i had to negotiate that. so i think he's given as much specifics as president obama ever gave in 2008 when he ran for president, probably a lot more. >> mr. giuliani, just to make sure how much news was made tonight, am i still correct that the romney campaign's official position is they want to extend indefinitely or permanently the push tax cuts on the table, which would cut taxes for high income individuals? i don't think that's a matter of debate yet mitt romney seemed to repudiate that. >> if you extend the bush tax cuts, you keep taxes where they are. if you don't extend the bush tax cuts, you raise taxes. >> they're set to expire. it was your party that set them to expire i would add. i
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and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: in just a few hours, president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney will take the stage at the university of denver's magness arena for the first of three election debates. tonight's encounter, moderated by the "newshour's" own jim lehrer, is to focus on domestic policy. the first half of the 90-minute face-off will be spent on the number one issue for most voters this year: the economy. joining us for the debate, and here with us now to preview what to expect tonight are two familiar faces syndicated columnist mark shields and "new york times" columnist david brooks. gentlemen, welcome. the night is finally here. mark, no pressure, just 60 million people will be watching. what are you looking for from tonighta encounter? >> what i'm looking for, judy, is that the-- the candidate who understands of the two that the most important thing is not making a mistake but really making a point as to what his presidency would be about. i think both
and by contributions to your pbs station from viewers like you. thank you. >> woodruff: in just a few hours, president barack obama and former massachusetts governor mitt romney will take the stage at the university of denver's magness arena for the first of three election debates. tonight's encounter, moderated by the "newshour's" own jim lehrer, is to focus on domestic policy. the first half of the 90-minute face-off will be spent on the number one issue for most voters this...
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. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and some other things. i like big bird and you too. i'm not going to keep spending money to borrow money from china to pay for it again. >> reporter: the two men will square off again on october 16th. vice presidential candidates will get their turn next week. they square off in their first and only debate on thursday. >> thank you so much. you just mentioned it vice presidential candidates joe biden and paul ryan holding their debate one week from today. president obama and mitt romney debate two more times this month. they will answer questions in a town hall style debate october 16th and debate foreign affairs on october 22nd. overseas now an escalating violence between turkey and syria. overnight turkey launched artillery strikes into syria. several syrian soldiers have been killed. artillery attacks were retaliation for mortar fire that landed in a turkish border down killing civilians. nato held an emergency meeting to asking syria to end the violations of international law. >> reporter: turkey took a
. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs and some other things. i like big bird and you too. i'm not going to keep spending money to borrow money from china to pay for it again. >> reporter: the two men will square off again on october 16th. vice presidential candidates will get their turn next week. they square off in their first and only debate on thursday. >> thank you so much. you just mentioned it vice presidential candidates joe biden and paul ryan...
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i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> let's get back to medicare. the president said he can provide the service at a lower cost at a lower profit. let me mention the other one. wlets talk. >> no, let's not. let's let him respond to this specific dodd frank and what the governor just said. >> gene? >> this was a tangle if guy seemed to win every team. they never discussed the auto industry. 1k5e >> they didn't discuss the auto industry chen me talked about tax reform. romney was asked, what deductions are you going to get rid of. home mortgage deduction? no specifics. if jim wasn't going to ask the follow-up question. >> he didn't ask any follow-up questions. >> so the president should have asked those questions, i think. >> joy, try this. you mentioned the president came in there to sort of, you know, clinch, if you will, keep the score even and don't overstate anything and don't make it
i like pbs. i like big bird and i like you too but i'm not going to keep on spending money from things to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> let's get back to medicare. the president said he can provide the service at a lower cost at a lower profit. let me mention the other one. wlets talk. >> no, let's not. let's let him respond to this specific dodd frank and what the governor just said. >> gene? >> this was a tangle if guy seemed to win every team. they never...